Talk:Krystal (restaurant)
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White Castle and locations
[edit]Krystal is obviously a Southern derivative of White Castle, which is what inspired it. (This perhaps belongs in the article.) The greater Nashville, Tennessee area is the only market area where the two currently overlap, and one of the elements of Southern pride is a belief that Krystals are superior. Also, Krystal Restaurant is the origin of the name of country singer Crystal Gayle, even though she spells it differently.
Rlquall 21:16, 28 Aug 2004 (UTC)
- While I agree with this, Krystal has consistently maintained that they came up with the idea idenpendently from White Castle, so to stay NPOV both sides should be mentioned. The current wording is okay, but perhaps some expansion is in order
- I also have some pictures of the New Orleans Krystal, I should probably find one and upload it. Kaszeta 02:43, 29 Aug 2004 (UTC)
They also now compete in the Atlanta area.Realkyhick 07:38, 25 September 2005 (UTC)
There is currently only one location in North Carolina, and as per the Krystal website they are currently "under construction". Article seems to imply that Krystals are common in NC.MrWorkrate 13:52, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
- I saw more than one location in Asheville, NC in early September, 2006. I recall stopping in Asheville one earlier year (September, maybe 2004) and seeing one mostly built with a "Now hiring" sign. There was one in Burlington, NC for a while but it had been closed down and turned into a Subway sometime this year. 68.16.179.43 22:04, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
According to Krystal's website as of March 11, 2008, there are no Krystals in North Carolina. --Jnelson09 (talk) 03:14, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
As of today, 18 April 2012, the Krystal website's "Locations" search lists no Krystals in the state of Texas. If you search using any location in Texas or any point west of Texas, the search results show that the nearest Krystal locations are in Mississippi and Louisiana. Rainier Wolfcastle (talk) 08:41, 18 April 2012 (UTC)
Additionally, the Krystal website lists no locations in Virginia but the map shows Virginia highlighted in red indicating it does have them (as of 03 May 2021). Cursedjarlic (talk) 01:17, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
Shouldn't Florida be purple on the map since a White Castle opened there?? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.112.119.105 (talk) 09:28, 27 February 2022 (UTC)
Vandalism
[edit]Vomit or grits? Oddly I have never seen "vomit" on the menu. Was that supposed to have been a joke?
- Yes. Simple jokes from simple minds. Prometheus-X303- 13:43, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
premier competitive eating event?
[edit]with all due respect to krystal, the only premier competitive eating event we're used to seeing out here in california is the nathan's hot dogs competition.
Edits
[edit]If you're going to make a snide edit in how you believe Krystal "stole" from White Castle, back it up at least. --DodgerOfZion 00:23, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
Krystal - - - - White Castle ? ? ?
[edit]I am not saying that either is a rip of either. I am just curious, and feel that it may be noted. They do look alike, but I want to know, Do they taste at all alike??? Whether they are related or not, this is something that could be useful in the stating of their similarities. --MJHankel 19:39, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
- Taste is severely subjective, and it can't be scientifically proven. I suggest that subject be left alone. I think Smirnoffs taste like 7-Up, but not others around me. --DodgerOfZion 01:07, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
- Ok, that is fine, though in your opinion is it similar? Either way I would like to know if it is at all considered to be. --MJHankel 15:22, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
- The only similarities are the shape of the cheeseburgers and the number of 24-hour locations. Other than that, they are two distinct brands. At least, that's been my experience. --DodgerOfZion 21:06, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
- Ok, thanks I have heard many people say that they are the same thing. I am currently in Dallas in college and I am from Chicago. A friend of mine wanted to try White Castle and I was not sure if Krystal was really anything like it besides the look. Personally I am not a fan of white castle but he wanted to try it so I thought I would see if it was an equivalent. --MJHankel 22:23, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
- They don't taste anything alike, and more noticeably, the texture is very different. This is causing problems, at least for Krystal when trying to expand into White Castle territory. Northern consumers have become so familiar with the White Castle taste and texture that they often expect it to be much the same, and when it's not they find themselves not returning to Krystal. An example comes to mind in Murray, Kentucky where Krystal opened a new location in 2004 right next to Murray State University in town. Both Krystal and White Castle have cult followings among college students due to late hours and cheap prices, but the problem was that many of the students in town were from Missouri and Illinois. They visited Krystal expecting it to be like White Castle, but when they discovered it wasn't they did not return. Students even created Facebook groups asking the Krystal to close and be replaced with a White Castle. The Krystal soon closed down about a year later. 75.87.121.233 (talk) 18:56, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
- Ok, thanks I have heard many people say that they are the same thing. I am currently in Dallas in college and I am from Chicago. A friend of mine wanted to try White Castle and I was not sure if Krystal was really anything like it besides the look. Personally I am not a fan of white castle but he wanted to try it so I thought I would see if it was an equivalent. --MJHankel 22:23, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
- The only similarities are the shape of the cheeseburgers and the number of 24-hour locations. Other than that, they are two distinct brands. At least, that's been my experience. --DodgerOfZion 21:06, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
- Ok, that is fine, though in your opinion is it similar? Either way I would like to know if it is at all considered to be. --MJHankel 15:22, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
- They taste alike to me, but again taste is subjective. 64.45.250.225 (talk) 18:09, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
- The nearest Krystal to me is about 2 hours. The nearest White Castle is about 10 hours. Ironically, I've eaten at many more White Castles than Krystals. I had Krystal once and that was about a year ago. I can't count how many times I've eaten White Castle. I ate there twice in the last month. A standard White Castle comes with just onion and pickle. I order with no pickle, put my ketchup on (1 packet per) and I'm good to go. Krystals come with onion, pickle and mustard. Mustard makes me sick, so I order with no pickle or mustard and add my ketchup. Anyhow, aside from that, they taste very similar to me. I give the edge to White Castle, but Krystal was good for a reasonable substitute to give me my fix. 1badgmc (talk) 00:10, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
- Quite different to my taste. They both date back to the early years of hamburgers, before the size and shape was standardized into a large round bun and a patty between a quarter pound and a half pound in pre-cooked size. They happen to have similar shapes, so they are endlessly compared. With different ingredients, cooking methods, and different sizes, they aren't really "the same". They are the same in the way that the quarter pounder and the whopper are the same... roughly and generally the same food product, with variants on cooking and specific ingredients. Of course, I live in a town (Nashville) with several of both, so they are easily compared. I'm not sure there should be a bunch of White Castle stuff in the article at all (in the same way McDonalds information shouldn't fill up the Burger King article). If somebody wants to source the history of either company, there are some good books about food history that have covered both restaurant chains. 74.240.246.239 (talk) 13:47, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
Adding references
[edit]My edits aren't the best, but I wanted to at least begin adding references to this article. Although the "I dreamed of Krystal" source may seem not-notable or WP:TRIVIA, it may make more sense when other sourced fan stories and "lore" are added. I also edited the White Castle section because bulleted points seemed a bit excessive in such a short article. Flowanda 01:54, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
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Typo?
[edit]under pop culture, the restaurant is referred to as "Krystals." Having never seen the movie, I can't say for sure if that's wrong. 68.155.128.138 00:22, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
- What movie? It's quite common in my area for people to add an "s" to restaurant names to don't have one. "Krystal" becomes "Krystal's". Example. Prometheus-X303- 18:20, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
Picture of a Hamburger
[edit]Renfield 03:01, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
Commercials
[edit]Has anyone else noticed they usually, if not always, have attractive girls in their commercials? Xihix 22:27, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
Citation
[edit]For: "The current World Record is 103 Krystal burgers in 8 minutes by Joey Chestnut, set on October 28, 2007"
http://www.krystalsquareoff.com/competitive-eating-profiles/joey-chestnut.html
"2007 WAS THE YEAR CHESTNUT EARNED HIS FIRST KRYSTAL SQUARE OFF WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP, AND DID SO IN CONVINCING FASHION. DESPITE MISSING OUT ON THE CHANCE TO BEAT KOBAYASHI HEAD TO HEAD DUE TO AN INJURY TO THE JAPANESE EATER'S JAW, CHESTNUT CLAIMED THE TITLE OF GREATEST KRYSTAL EATER OF ALL TIME, BY EATING AN UNPRECEDENTED 103 KRYSTALS, BESTING THE PREVIOUS RECORD BY 6 BURGERS."
--Tholcomb (talk) 06:16, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
Senator Bob Corker built Bencor
[edit]Senator Bob Corker built a construction company doing business in 18 states or a friend at Krystal hired him to install drive in windows? Is this another example of Ron Johnson (U.S. politician) and the Bemis connection? I think the Drive in window innovation might deserve a section of it's own and the competitive edge gained by having such a feature.
There seems to be quite a body of discussion regarding Corker's role. [1]
Order of Chains
[edit]- . White Castle (restaurant) 1921
- . Kewpee Hamburgers 1923
- . White Tower Hamburgers 1926
- . Little Tavern 1927
- . Toddle House 1931
- . White Castle (II; run by Henry Cassada) 1930s
- . Krystal (restaurant) 1931]][2]
References
[edit]- ^ http://www.chattanoogan.com/2006/10/12/94528/Corker-Not-Such-A-Self-Made-Man---And.aspx.
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Krystal vs White Castle locations map
[edit]I updated this map: File:Krystal-vs-whitecastle-locations-map.svg. It was removed from the article about 10 years ago and replaced by a PNG version, and the PNG image was then deleted as a "not useful" copy of the SVG. I'm interested in editors' opinion on whether this would be a useful illustration in the article. Jack N. Stock (talk) 00:34, 6 January 2019 (UTC)
- Hello, User:Jacknstock Would it be possible for you to update the location map again by making the State of Florida purple to indicate that both Krystal and White Castle locations are located here. White Castle announced last year that they are opening a White Castle location in Orlando near the Walt Disney World Resort. Thanks for your assistance and contribution to Wikipedia. YborCityJohn (talk) 06:59, 25 January 2020 (UTC)
- @YborCityJohn: it's too early yet, sources say "late 2020, early 2021". There's many a slip 'twixt the cup and the lip, and it would be misleading to include a location prior to opening. Jack N. Stock (talk) 03:44, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
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